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Transit Tangents
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Transit Tangents
Transit Tour - Vienna (Our First European City!)
We explore Vienna using only public transit, testing the city’s frequency, coverage, and ease of use while visiting multiple transit hubs, Schönbrunn Palace, the museum district, and many destinations along the way. Using buses, trams, U-bahn, S-Bahn, and
bike share, we reflect on how Vienna supports true Freedom of Mobility.
Some highlights:
• a full day using U-Bahn, S-Bahn, trams, buses, bike share
• honor-system fares, all-door boarding, and ticket options
• U-Bahn frequency, station design, and transfers
• tram network scale, rolling stock mix, accessibility
• S-Bahn variety and major interchange hubs like Wien Meidling
• bus coverage, night service, and network redundancy
• street design that prioritises people over cars
• bike share usability, costs, and lane continuity
• contrasts with US systems and practical takeaways
• upcoming travel to Munich and Zurich
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This week on Transit Tangents, we do Vienna in a day using only public transit. We ride the U-Bahn, S-Bahn, trams, buses, bike chair, and more and put the city's public transit to the test. All of that and more coming up on Transit Tangents. We are here in Vienna, Austria. Right in the city center. We've got this lovely uh Stefansplatz. Stefansplatz behind us. Uh we I got in yesterday. Chris has been here a couple days for work. Uh we're gonna essentially today do Vienna using only public transit, which is what we've done in several US cities. Uh something tells me this is gonna be a little easier. Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_02:Uh, this is part of a larger European tour that we're doing, Vienna being our first stop in Europe, and then we're also gonna continue down the train line to Munich and Zurich as well this week.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so definitely excited to check out all three cities. It's my first time in all three of these places. Chris has been to Vienna a handful of times. Um but yeah, definitely excited to check it out. So we're very much right now in kind of the old city center. Um, and from here we are going to eventually hop on an U-Bahn train and headed to a very different part of the city, which is kind of the more modern uh part of Vienna, just to kind of show the contrast a little bit. Um But throughout the day, we're gonna do our best to try to ride all of the different modes that are available here, and there are quite a few.
SPEAKER_02:So it's less of a uh a challenge like we see in a lot of the American cities, and more of a um, we want to show you all of the different modes and options that Vienna has to offer.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so we'll definitely hit the U-Bahns, we're gonna hit the S-Bahn, we'll hit the Strassenbahn, which is like a streetcar, uh, we'll hit the buses.
SPEAKER_02:Um And now that Lewis is uh almost German at this point, uh he's gonna help with all the translations and wayfinding.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, yes. Uh if you're not up to speed, I do live in Germany right now in a smaller city called Vienna. Um, but I haven't been to Munich yet, so I'm excited to check that out. But uh let's get started though. Uh we're gonna head over to the U-Bahn and we'll pick it up from there. For our first mode of transit of the day, we boarded the U1 headed towards Al Tadano. Yeah, that does look interesting.
SPEAKER_02:Well, this one's different than the others. The others just like a flat bar.
SPEAKER_01:The U1 is the longest U-Bahn line in the city, stretching almost 20 kilometers from end to end. It opened its first segment in 1978 with its latest extension being completed just in 2017. As you're watching this video, consider hitting the like button and subscribing. It helps us out quite a bit.
SPEAKER_02:So we have gone from the Vienna City Center out past that to what is kind of more the modern side of the city. Um, you have the International Center that's over on this side and a couple of the rivers. Uh, but as you can see behind us, it's very, very beautiful. There's a lot of houseboats and just a really cool uh part of the city. But what you may have noticed when we were walking through the train stations is that there was no like tap to pay, there was no transit card, which across uh Vienna, the system's sort of on a a uh a trust basis or uh Yeah, it's very very much an honor system.
SPEAKER_01:Uh you'll find this in much of Germany as well. I'm curious to see. I'm honestly not sure if it's the case in Switzerland. So when we get over there, I'll be curious to see if it's the case. But um, yeah, there's no nothing as you enter, um, but occasionally you'll essentially have ticket inspectors going through the trains, they ask you to show your ticket, and if you don't have it, you usually get hit with a pretty hefty fine. Yeah. Um, that's at least how it works in Germany. I'm sure it's pretty similar to it. Yeah, it's very similar to option.
SPEAKER_02:And what is also great is if you do bypass, which you should, you should bypass. I bought a week uh unlimited pass.
SPEAKER_01:I bought a 48-hour pass, and it's cheap. The 48-hour pass just for for like something to compare to was 14 euros, which actually, compared to the US, might seem expensive because a lot of the transit systems in the US, a day pass is cheaper than that. But the thing is, is you can get anywhere very quickly and very efficiently.
SPEAKER_02:You can use it on the the U-Bahn, you can use it on the S Bahn, you can use it on the Anybond. What's the business?
SPEAKER_01:The buses, the Strassenbahn, which is the streetcars. Like you can use it anywhere to get around the city.
SPEAKER_02:The only exceptions are regional rail and like going to the airport.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Um, which, you know, no complaints there. Yeah. Um the other thing that we wanted to point out too is uh so you're gonna see one go by in a second. Uh there's a a stop just out of your view here, but this bridge right here is for the U-Bahn. Uh the U Bahn is running at five-minute frequencies. So at that level, you're not looking at a schedule, you're not worried if you just missed a train, you're just kind of going about your day, going through and getting on the train. So um pretty amazing to have levels of frequency like that, at least for us.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, absolutely. And unusual, I think, uh in US standards. So with that, we are going to walk through this beautiful area of town and hit our first uh Strasebahn.
SPEAKER_01:Strassenbahn, yeah. We're we're gonna hit our first like tram streetcar for US people, but um yeah, we'll we'll head that way. Is this making you feel like home, Chris? We're never too far away from home. Is this South Lamar?
SPEAKER_02:I This is a Strodenstrass. There's a Strodenstrass, yes.
SPEAKER_01:There's even a McDonald's. Something you'll find quite a bit in a few European cities is mopeds and scooters riding in the bike lanes. It takes some getting used to seeing, and to be honest, I'm not really sure how I feel about them. Anyway, from here we cross the street to catch the tram.
SPEAKER_02:The skinniest uh transit stop I've ever seen. Yes. Sometimes it's all you need. That's all you need.
SPEAKER_01:We're definitely in a further out part of town. Not further. I guess kind of further out. I'm curious on a map.
SPEAKER_02:On a European standard, I think we're pretty far outside of out of the main part of town. This would be Vienna suburbia.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Which for suburbia is still pretty fairly dense for US standards at least. So from here we are headed to this Floridsdorf, which I believe is a bit of a transit hub where we can catch the U-Bahn trains. I think the S-Bahn stops there as well. Uh there are some regional trains that stop there on the kind of east side of Vienna. So we're gonna catch the Strassenbahn. We just missed one that went by. Uh these run every 10 minutes. We are, like we said, a little further out of town, so the frequencies go down a bit. But again, every 10 minutes for still not very standard.
SPEAKER_02:That's our most frequent in Austin.
SPEAKER_01:So yeah, yep. Um although hopefully when the light rail comes, it'll be every seven and a half, which will be pretty, pretty sweet when that when that gets there. Now if, when. You win. When. For those of you new to the channel, when Chris and I started this, we were both living in Austin, so we often talk about the city's plans for light rail. We have done a few episodes about it if you're interested in learning more. Chris still lives in Austin while I'm now living in Germany for the next few years for my partner's job. So we just took the Strassenbahn from Kagraner Bruck, probably butchering the uh pronunciation there a little bit. Yeah, and uh yeah, we had just missed one when we pulled in. Um that one that we had just missed was a really old-looking streetcar, which was pretty exciting. Um, fortunately or unfortunately, I guess we got a we got a newer one. There, I wouldn't say like new, new, but new enough. Um, but interesting to see that they're running both uh some really old as well as really new rolling stock on the on the line. And really high frequency.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, it's said about every 10 minutes at the station, but we passed so many uh so many streetcars on the way.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, I was like getting shots of them for you all to see out the window, and I actually stopped doing it because it's like, alright, I got too many of them, which is uh a good problem to have.
SPEAKER_02:Also, ridership was really good. This was sort of the line that's connecting multiple transit hubs. Um kind of like a ring route. Yeah, like a ring route not going to the city center. And uh the train was pretty full.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And all of them that I've seen so far have actually been pretty full.
SPEAKER_01:And for the context, it's like uh it's 11, a little after 11 right now, so it's not like it's morning rush hour or anything. It's just people using them to get around doing their day-to-day. Um one other thing to note on the new trams, they're all have fairly level boarding, which is uh nice to have, good for accessibility, for speed. Uh the older ones, um, I could see into the window of one of them and it had a flight of stairs going in, which definitely slows people down going in. And if you're in a wheelchair or older and have issues with stairs, that can be an issue. So that's probably why they're replacing a lot of them. A few more fun facts for you about the trams in Vienna. The city actually has the sixth largest tram network in the world with nearly 30 lines covering 171 kilometers or over 100 miles of the city. The earliest trams in the city were horse-drawn before electrification began to happen in 1897. From here, which where we are at right now, which is Floridsdorf, I believe. Floridsdorf, we're gonna catch uh one of the S-bond trains. So hitting our third mode of transit for the day already at 1115. Uh, and we're gonna take that kind of back into the main part of the city and go check out our our first castle of the day, which will be uh pretty exciting. So we'll pick it up from the S-Bahn.
SPEAKER_02:We have our first hiccup of the day. There is a major delay for the S-Bahn, the S2, that we're trying to take it from Floorstorf to uh Vienn. Um this major delay is gonna cost us like five minutes.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, but things things are not all perfectly on time anywhere, so something to remember. Comment to let us know what you think so far and where you'd like to see us go next.
SPEAKER_02:Alright, so we went from Floresdorf, got on our uh delayed S2, um, and rode that into town. We did end up doing a little train switch just to experience two different versions of the S Bahn.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so and I've experienced three because I took one yesterday and all three have been wildly, wildly different and wildly different, I guess. Um the first one we got on was like very much felt like a regional train, two stories. Um, and I think the reason was was that S-Bahn train went significantly further out of the city center. So a lot of folks are using that one more like a regional train. Um I was curious to see if we got off one and on another one, if it would feel similarly, and it was more like a like a train you would see in a city or or S-bonds in other cities. Yeah. Uh the one I was on yesterday, which I have a couple photos of it, we'll drop in, was very retro. It felt like it was like 40 years old, uh, like walking into something that was like from the 80s. Um, so three very different experiences.
SPEAKER_02:And on that note, that's actually something that we've noticed on some of the trains is that um sometimes things feel a little dated. We I think I think of Europe as being kind of so far ahead, so many years ahead when it comes to transit, but then we get on the transit here, and it almost feels like you're stepping back in time because the trains are generally older, but then you also have the at least here here for Vienna. Here in Vienna for sure. Um but then you but you have the buttons on the train doors. You have to press the button to make sure that the uh to make sure that the train opens, and uh that's just something very different. In some cases, it's not even a button, it's a full handle. You have to pull as hard as you can to get it open.
SPEAKER_01:So and the buttons are common even on like modern, like uh so in Vienna where I live, the new uh streetcars there have the buttons and they're brand new.
SPEAKER_02:So it's like it's just a something very different, yeah, than what we used to have. But we did the little train uh switch at uh uh Vien Mid, and now we are at Vien Medling. I get that backwards, uh but so but we are uh over here. This is actually really close to my office, which is kind of cool. But we're going to um see some of the different transit options that are here. Just as we've been standing here, there's been so many regional trains passing us, but this is also a big hub for the streetcar. Um so you have that coming through here, uh multiple uh multiple streetcars come through, and then there's also uh multiple buses that also connect to the station. And the U-Bahn.
SPEAKER_01:And U-Bahn. Yes, so all of all yes. It's a big transit home. Check D for all of the above. Yeah. Yeah. Um we're also gonna grab some lunch while we're here, and then we will go check out a castle. I mentioned a castle previously. You gotta stick around for it. It's a palace. Come to the house. Oh, palace, sorry, sorry. I saw Schloss on the uh Schloss means castle in German.
SPEAKER_02:We've been exploring the area around Wien Medling, and now what we're gonna do is hop on a bus and take that to uh Schonbrunn uh palace or castle, whatever you want to call it. But we're gonna catch the bus, grab a bite to eat, and then uh finally show you the Schloss.
SPEAKER_01:We got a bus stop island for the bike lane. Yes. Austin's doing a lot of those now. Our bus came right on schedule and we were on our way without issue. Buses fan out across all of Vienna, filling in the gaps where the trams, S-Bahn, and U-Bahn trains miss, while also covering some similar terrain in many areas. Vienna also has a night bus system that runs through the overnight hours, ensuring folks still have a way to get around 24-7. We are currently at the Schunenbrunn Palace.
SPEAKER_02:Uh, Schoenbrun where uh Marie Antoinette grew up, uh, also was a Habsburg Palace seat.
SPEAKER_01:Seems like she probably had a pretty tough life growing up on these uh these grounds. I don't know if I could do it myself. No. Kidding. Uh so to get here though, we made quite a few little stops along the way. So, first, uh, after getting off of our S-Bahn train, we boarded a bus, our first bus here in Vienna, uh, the 9A. We rode it uh only a couple stops to where we got lunch. Um, a couple things to note about the bus. Fairly frequent. It looked like every 10-minute service. We didn't wait very long for it.
SPEAKER_02:Really easy boarding, so you can board in any door. There's no fare checking in the process.
SPEAKER_01:And the ticket from the train and all that sort of stuff also works on the buses. Um, yeah, and it really speeds things up. It's it's the same sort of elements of having like a free bus network. You get the benefits here, uh, with the exception of if there is a ticket checker coming around and checking on your bus. So it keeps things moving quickly. Check out our free buses episode from a few weeks ago for more on that. We got off the train, we got some pizza. Uh, we got way too much pizza actually. Um it's for another another story. Uh, and then from there, we walked here over uh to the beautiful spot that we're at now. Um, really beautiful fountains and gardens.
SPEAKER_02:There's a maze which we really want to do, we don't have time.
SPEAKER_01:Tempted to do it, but yeah, don't want to be stuck there for the rest of the afternoon. Um from here though, we're gonna kind of start to make our way back towards more of the center of Vienna. So we're gonna hop back, I believe, on the U-Bahn.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. To the U4.
SPEAKER_01:U4 line.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. We'll take that back into town a little ways. Um, we don't know which station yet, we'll figure out a good station to then maybe take a streetcar and get closer to the Volk Theater area or like near the the uh Vienna Opera House.
SPEAKER_01:If you remember back to our Austin in a day episode. I just made a comment that this fountain looks just just like the UT fountain. Not quite, but I think that that is in that episode. So if it is, I'll put the comparison here.
SPEAKER_02:Tough tough one to decide, but this is this Marie Infinite's waiting pool.
SPEAKER_01:Which which direction do we go?
SPEAKER_02:I got a little turned around.
SPEAKER_01:Just make a right. Train stations, right? There. The palace is right on the other side of this parking thing. We walked downstairs and quickly boarded a U-4 train headed towards Karlsplatz. This is our second U-Bahn line of the day, but there are six in total throughout Vienna. The system has 109 stations covering over 80 kilometers of tracks. Frequencies on the U-Bahn at peak can be as low as every two to five minutes, and on holidays and off-peak hours can still run every 15 minutes. If you want to support the show, the best way to do so is via our Patreon. We've been doing weekly content for nearly two years, highlighting transit systems, speaking to transit advocates, agencies, politicians, and new projects happening around the US and now in Europe. Your support would mean a lot. You can also check out our merch store or become a member here on YouTube. Interested in the opera house or in the streetcar? Both. You get both.
SPEAKER_02:We just took the U4 a couple stops, and now we are at the Vienna State Opera House, uh, which is dates back to around the uh 1860s, uh, but right back in where we're sort of back in the center of Vienna. So we went out a little ways to go see the pa uh the palace, came back in. Now we're gonna go from here, uh explore around a little bit, head towards the museum district before hopping on um another mode of train. Probably another another train.
SPEAKER_01:I will say, like, in the five minutes or less we've been standing here, there have been like there was like a traffic jam of streetcars already, like three in a row. Plus buses, plus buses on the other side of us here. And a big bike lane. And a big bike lane, and like there are streetcars going one way, like which is actually against car traffic on one side, and then streetcars going the other way with traffic on the other. Um, so so we're gonna be really in a full transit hub, and it's interesting.
SPEAKER_02:Very busy.
SPEAKER_01:Also, I already know we're gonna get shit for saying streetcar this whole time instead of tram, because I feel like in Europe there are trams, even though Strassenbahn is more like literally translates, I feel like, to streetcar.
SPEAKER_02:But you know, I think people get the point.
SPEAKER_01:I think they get the point, but like I feel like I've seen plenty of debate about this on like Reddit and we'll just recall the transit the Strassenbahn. The Strassenbahn, yes, we'll be pure purists. Alright, uh, we're gonna go check out the museum district. There's a streetcar track on that side, a streetcar track here as well. Uh, interesting. So that streetcar track is going with traffic. This one is going against traffic on a one-way street.
SPEAKER_02:Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Hmm. As we walked through the neighborhood heading west from the opera house, we passed several of Vienna's museums, including the Natural History Museum, an art history museum, among several others. As we were looking around, we noticed how wide the road we were on was, but the amount of space dedicated to cars was significantly less than what we're used to seeing back home in the US.
SPEAKER_02:This is like this is like the way strodes should happen. You have you have your giant pedestrian pathway here, you have another very large uh bicycle path, and then you have another pedestrian track, and then you have your streetcar, and then your traffic lanes, and then you have all of that repeated on the other side. So it's a really wide avenue, but there is so much mobility happening through here, it's really impressive.
SPEAKER_01:Alright, we were unsure if this was gonna be a thing, but we have found out that uh bike share is an option here.
SPEAKER_02:Um and it's really it's a huge network too, like really wide distributed throughout the entire uh city. It's done by Next Bike, but branded as uh uh Vienna Mobile.
SPEAKER_01:Which is the same app that we were able to use to book our like transit tickets through, basically. So um we're gonna try to square away getting these unlocked, uh, and then uh we'll probably try to film a little bit on the ride and we'll let you know how it goes.
SPEAKER_02:Alright, so we figured out the bike share. We were able to take that and kind of meander uh back through town to get back to Astad Park, which is right by our hotel.
SPEAKER_01:Um stopped and hit a couple nice looking fountains along the way. Yeah, beautiful landmarks. The weather's been beautiful today, too. We really lucked out. It's a little chilly, but it's really sunny, so it's like the kind of like, should I keep my sweatshirt on or should I not all day basically? But um so a lovely day. Lots of people out enjoying the weather, which was nice to see.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and using the bikes was pretty easy. The only uh weird thing is that sometimes the bike lanes kind of like jot off to one direction and then it's not very clear where you're supposed to go.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was mostly the intersections. It'd like it'd be really nice. You'd be on this like dedicated path, and then you get to an intersection, and some of those intersections were a little funky. Um but in between those it was really nice, and uh it also looked like on the other side of the street it was a lot more of like a straight path the whole time. So um your results may vary. Yeah depending on your biking. Um we also were on some that felt more like a bike lane in the US at certain points too, where it's just a painted stripe, which in some cases I guess they drop down to five. Yeah, it was fine here. One other thing on the bike here, um it was only six euros uh for two bikes. For two bikes in total for I don't know, about a half an hour or so. Um so it seemed like you could use it for uh maybe up to a certain period of time, but it's really affordable to bike bike here.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So uh Lewis, this is your first time in Vienna. What are your first impressions?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's been really nice so far. It's been incredibly easy to get around, uh which was to be expected, I would say. Um we really weren't waiting for things all day, and the only times we were waiting for things would have only been for a couple minutes, and it was because we were like, oh, we should try using the S Bahn to get there, or oh, we should try using the Strassenbahn to get there. Purely just to try the different modes of transit. In almost every single one of those cases, there was another way that would have been faster to get there and would have had less wait times.
SPEAKER_02:Um But like the key here is like the there's so many different modes of mobility. I mean, we have the U the U-Bahn, we have the S-Bahn, we have the Strassenbahn, we have the regional trains, the national trains, like the trains going out of the country. Right. There are so many layers, and then on top of that, they do have a couple scooter companies here. They have the bikes for micromobility options.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if you mentioned buses in there too, but they're gonna be able to get the biggest.
SPEAKER_02:Oh buses, yes. Uh Busabon, bus, busabon. These are bus. Uh but plenty of travel options no matter where you're trying to get in town. And the other great thing about Vienna is that everything is fairly close together. It's a pretty dense city as far as like the urban environment goes here. Everything is not like the highest density, like super high tall high rises, but everything is like really packed in together.
SPEAKER_01:Five density everywhere.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, five six-story buildings everywhere.
SPEAKER_01:So and it yeah, and it makes it so that like all of those modes of transit that we rode all day, regardless of the time of day, were well used. Yeah, they weren't like jam-packed, crammed in. Although I'm sure like around now it's starting to become like rush hour. I'm sure they're probably are starting to get a little bit more, you know, standing room only crushed into some of them. But um, when you do have those frequencies of every five minutes throughout all of the day, um, I wonder if they even rush some even a little bit more than that in the rush hour periods. You know, you there's not much to complain about. And you're also not riding them for that long unless you are getting on one of those longer distance S Bahn routes riding further and further out of town.
SPEAKER_02:So in all, I said it's a really successful day. Uh this is a great kickoff to our European tour. As we said at the top of the episode, we are going to be going from Vienna off to Munich tomorrow morning. Uh we'll be in Munich for two days and then on to Zurich. Uh, first time for both of us in both of those cities. So really excited to check them out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and it'll also be fun to ride the different trains between the cities and whatnot. Uh, I'm starting to be get a little bit more used to the ability of being able to do that quite a bit. Um but yeah, it'll be fun to be able to bounce around. I mean we were talking, it's it'll be very exciting to ride from Munich to Switzerland. I feel like there's gonna be lots of tunnels and whatnot involved going through the mountains, so a lot to look forward to. Um a couple things I'm trying to think of like something interesting to tie back to like transit at home, and there are some things here that I think just to put to find some, you know, good things for the US to point out in this. Like there were only a handful of trains and buses today where we saw like really like newer displays inside of them. Now there were some, like in the bus we were in today, they did have the really modern displays at all the next stops, so that's like a really nice thing. But I would say that those are almost more common in the US than what we've seen here. Um a lot of the trains were on the older side, but still functional. They were doing fine. Yeah. Um so you know, a lot of the things are a little bit older, but it is something that it seems to be being remodeled and refreshed.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And something you talked about to me about during breakfast is like on the previous times on the show, we talked about how streetcars should really be separated from traffic for better flow. But in most cases, the streetcars are still flowing through traffic here. They do have their dedicated lanes and dedicated streets here and there, but there are plenty of times where they're sharing lanes of traffic, and it seems to work pretty well.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I mean I'm sure that there are areas that have their complications. Um it's hard for us to tell if there's any like real dedicated signal prioritization in any cases. I'm sure that there are in the places where it needs it, just given how many streetcars there are. I mean, there is literally one after the other after the other everywhere we were basically all day today. Um yeah, I mean we didn't even capture half of the streetcars we saw on camera because there were just so so so many of them. I mean there were like traffic jams of just the streetcars everywhere, so uh which was amazing to see, and they were they were really well ridden, and I I I guess I wasn't expecting there to be so many of them. Um yeah, that was that was uh good to see. And yeah, and in the US, I mean even though I think we're guilty of saying like, oh, it has to be fully separated, all this sort of stuff. And yeah, that is ideal, but maybe not everything that needs to be that. Now that's not an excuse for us in the United States to like not build the upgrade separated uh when we're able to.
SPEAKER_02:I would say the biggest difference here is that it's not as much of a car-dominated culture, and so there's a little bit more space, I think. Especially when you're in the city center, the trams or the the streetcars have a little bit more uh they have less traffic to deal with, maybe, than what we typically see in a US city of the same size. Right, right, right. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But uh only other takeaways I think I would mention, and you talked about this when we saw it, like even on some of their wider streets here, they do a good job of still making sure that the other users of the road have some dignity, if you will. So even on the roads where it was like three car lanes on either side, you would still have a decent bus uh bike lane or something like that. Some of them were better than others. There were definitely some like, you know, like they weren't nice looking in some areas.
SPEAKER_02:The Vienna version of one more lane, bro, is like, hey, just one more bike lane, bro. Hey, one more one more streetcar lane, bro.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Um one thing with this that we're gonna do differently, we are not gonna compare the European cities into our like American city in a day list. That just doesn't seem fair right or equivalent, or yeah, so we're not gonna do that. Um, but we may kind of rank these three on this trip and kind of compare it. We might not do like a one, two, three, but we'll probably compare them in some fashion.
SPEAKER_02:I would say so far, for the European cities we've been to, Lewis, Vienna's number one.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. Uh now we're talking. Um but with all that, uh, I mean, if you have been to Vienna before, if there are modes of transit you wanted us to hit, obviously there are sites we did not hit. There are a million places you could go to here. Um I this is a very, very quick trip for me being here. Uh I will certainly be back. Um but if there are other things that you think we should have checked us check it out, let us know. Um if there are other cities you want us to check out besides Munich and Zurich, uh definitely let us know as well. I'm sure Chris will be back at some point. But I am also uh, like I've mentioned before, living in Germany at the moment. I plans to hit a couple different cities to maybe not do episodes quite like this where we're riding all day, but trying to highlight different modes of transit uh similar to the one I did a couple weeks back, uh talking about regional road, which we need to interest in. So if you haven't seen that, you can check it out. But definitely let us know. We'd love to make uh more content to fill your desires, whether it be from the United States or uh from over here.
SPEAKER_02:I was gonna say more content to fill your transit tangent Tuesday.
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SPEAKER_02:They are really comfortable. It came in handy today. It's a little chilly in uh Vienna.
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