Transit Tangents

Ranking U.S. Cities for Transit

Louis & Chris Season 2 Episode 78

Chris and Louis respond to viewer requests by ranking the eight city tours they've featured on the show. The rankings are based on the quality of public transit, highlighting the strengths and weaknesses of each system, as well as their experiences in each city. 


The cities being ranked: 

  • Austin, TX
  • Dallas, TX
  • San Antonio, TX
  • Houston, TX
  • New Orleans, LA
  • Washington, D.C.
  • Salt Lake City, UT
  • Kansas City, MO


Let us know how you would rank these cities. 


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Speaker 1:

Doors are closing. Public transit that's my way to roll On the metro. I'm taking control. Bus stops, train tracks it's my daily grind, daily grind. Public transit it's the rhythm of my life, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Today we're ranking the top transit cities we visited, from smooth subways to iconic street cars. Which cities got us to our destination on time and which ghosted us on the curb? Find out on this episode of Transit Tangents. Hey everybody and welcome back to this episode of Transit Tangents. My name's Chris and I'm Lewis, and today we are listening to people who have watched the show and given us your comments on YouTube. It's been a somewhat frequent request that we actually rank the cities that we go to and who we think has the best transit, and so far we've done eight cities, so really excited to start this.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and this will be very much in the style of the show Top Gear, which is kind of funny because we're like a public transit podcast and that couldn't be any further from it. But if you've seen Top Gear, they have a racetrack and they drive the cars around it. The Stig drives the cars around it and they all get slotted into a list of which car is the fastest around the track. It'll be a little bit more subjective with this because it's not as easy as you can get from point A to point B faster, because all of these cities are very different. People will definitely disagree with where we place some of these cities on our list, but we thought it would be a fun thing to do. And if you're wondering why we're in kind of a different spot, it's because we've been on a trip hitting a few more cities.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but this will be kind of getting us started with the list and then, at the end of each of the next three cities coming, which will be Boston, philadelphia and Baltimore, we'll be then slotting those cities in on the list as well. And a quick plug here if you want to help support to be able to make sure we can continue to go to more cities like this trip. The best way to be able to do so is on our Patreon or checking out our merch store, but without further ado, though, I think we should jump right into the list with number eight. Number eight on our list unfortunately that is.

Speaker 2:

The last spot on our list is New Orleans.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I mean we had a lot of fun in New Orleans. New Orleans is a great city, so people shouldn't take any offense to where their city lands on the list. It doesn't mean that we don't like your city or anything like that. It's just from a transit perspective. New Orleans could use a little help. There's a lot lacking.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and this wasn't a surprise to us when we went to New Orleans. It was very much. We went to the city originally to see the streetcar because it has the oldest streetcar operating in the world and so that was continuously operating, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oldest continuously operating streetcar in the world. So like that is a huge thing and we really wanted to go check it out and so when we went we expected transit to be a little lacking but we still had a really really fun time right, just kind of connecting um all over the city. And on that note, that is a. One of the big positives for us in new orleans is that the streetcars are historic. They're really fun to ride um they have.

Speaker 1:

They go decently far, you know, depending on where you're trying to go in the city and I mean uh, the nice thing is, the streetcars are great for tourists, but there's also regular folks riding them going to and from work or places who live in the city.

Speaker 1:

They're really beautiful, the nice kind of green space in the middle. They're on the grassy tracks and you know again, the city itself is great. They do have a pretty wide bus network but this kind of starts to fall where we start to get into some of the negatives, starts to fall where we start to get into some of the negatives. Their bus network reaches quite a few places but we found it to be pretty infrequent and unreliable. When we were trying to take it we had a ghost bus. Yeah, so ghost buses and non-frequent buses make it so that getting around can be tricky if you don't have a car.

Speaker 2:

But New Orleans does have so much potential. I mean, the city is fairly dense. Parts of it are incredibly walkable, even though the sidewalks are really uneven. But it does have a lot of potential and they are working on some investments. There's a brand new airport in New Orleans. It's very nice. There's also some transit hubs. They're working on building, they're redoing one of the ferry terminals, so they are putting some investment into the system. But as it stands, last on the list.

Speaker 1:

Moving on to number seven on the list, is kansas city, and we actually had a really nice time in kansas city. So I feel bad for being so low on the list, but I do think that in a little bit of time we can get into this. In a little bit it would be climbing up the list. There's a lot of potential there. So, um, to kind of start off with the positives, the streetcar is great. It's not a very extensive system right now, although it will be soon, as we're recording this, in June. The streetcar extensions are having test cars on them. They're not open yet, but they will be opening one of them this summer and then another in the beginning of next year and when those extensions open, that would definitely raise this up on the list for us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. Also, getting around town, there is some bus coverage. We found the max buses, which had frequency of about every 20 minutes, so not ideal, like they could be better, yeah, but the max bus system was fine, comfortable riding it around and getting through the city. Yep, we stayed fairly central in Kansas City. We didn't go too too far out. Brookside down south was a little bit out there. Yeah, a little bit, but I think the bus service starts to really taper off the further away from the city center you get For sure.

Speaker 1:

Further away from the city center you get For sure. And one other positive the fact that this is a free fare system means that the buses get moving a little faster. You're not sitting there waiting for people to tap or pull out money or whatever it may be. But that also kind of leads to some negatives, which we can talk about in a second too. One other positive I wanted to hit on was there are a lot of great neighborhoods and areas in town that are like former streetcar suburbs or streetcar neighborhoods, and that bodes well for the future of streetcar extensions.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely, and also a very active local community too that really does care about things like the streetcar and improvements to the system. So totally definitely, hopefully they get their voices heard.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and if you're looking for something like that, our episode with the urban labs folks is definitely worth checking out.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, as far as negatives go, you kind of touched on it, the, uh, the free fare system. It is a positive that you have a free fare system so anybody can jump on the bus, but it has created a huge deficit for the transit agency.

Speaker 1:

And now there's this sort of looming service cuts, these looming service cuts that are on the way and the city is trying to sort through how to deal with this, but as it stands right now it's not looking great, although it does seem like they are. Some of the plans are to bring fares back into the system. In Kansas City, fare revenue doesn't make up like a large portion. I wouldn't say fares are are what's causing the budget issues, but at least, especially optically, it doesn't look good. You're like oh, we're trying to keep the fairs free, but also we have this massive budget shortfall, so that's definitely something that they're going to have to work on there in Kansas City.

Speaker 2:

Off to number six on our list is our neighbor to the south in Austin, and that is San Antonio.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, San Antonio, I feel like you know, obviously not known for public transportation.

Speaker 2:

No, famously known as being the largest US city without a train service.

Speaker 1:

Yes, without a light rail service and, as a result, they just have an absolute absurd amount of buses. Yes, everywhere we found them running, basically on schedule. Over there we rode. I don't even remember I lost track like we rode so many buses, a lot of buses. Yeah, I remember too. We actually rode the amtrak down from austin.

Speaker 2:

Got off the amtrak, we caught the primo bus we there are enough buses and enough coverage, especially in the center part of the city that we got on the wrong bus, yes, and followed it or stayed on it for multiple miles, realized we were on the wrong bus and followed it or stayed on it for multiple miles, realized we were on the wrong bus, and then just walked one block over to the next bus stop to get on the right bus.

Speaker 1:

So I mean, while the system is just buses, it runs pretty extensively. Now, as with any of these systems, the further out you get, the less frequent those buses get, the harder it becomes to use. And you know, the less frequent those buses get, the harder it becomes to use. And one other kind of issue there was the crosstown routes were not super frequent either, so a lot of your routing needed to go through downtown. But that's pretty common in most cities, unfortunately.

Speaker 2:

And unfortunately San Antonio is a huge city. I mean it is sprawling forever. It's highways, very car-centric, it's just such a massive area to cover. But if you do live in the center part of the city obviously buses are a lot better. Another positive here the city has been making a lot of strides and improving bike infrastructure and there's sort of the central spine through the city of the riverwalk area with all the trails that kind of connect to it, so there's pretty decent walkability in that section of town. Uh, and I think the the bike infrastructure is getting better.

Speaker 1:

Yeah from. I remember speaking with some of the folks there like, the trails are good, the on-street bike infrastructure is still rough. Yeah, like there's like, but we saw some new bike lanes that they were putting in. Yeah, things are improving. I remember, though, them telling us like that is the. Yeah, like, that's, that's like the. I don't want to give them too much credit here, but but they might be, you know, hopefully trending in the right direction.

Speaker 2:

Still, um, but uh well and trending in the right direction. They are working on vrt, yes, for the future. So, uh, san antonio is putting investment into the system and, uh, there's some new modes of transit coming. Well, some updated modes of transit coming.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, still buses, still buses, but um, one other note that I had on here was uh, for being such a hot city. Um, there were not a lot of bus shelters. Uh, chris is notorious for leaving the sunscreen, um, uh, in different places, and uh, and, or we'll buy sunscreen and then we'll lose it. And I remember one particular point. In general, you were really, really hot, trying to hide behind this like one.

Speaker 1:

I was hiding by one little, one little street sign yes, number five on the list, which is a city near and dear to both of our hearts, which is the city of Austin yeah, so I am sad that Austin is as far down the list as it is, but unfortunately there's just so much work to be done.

Speaker 2:

in Austin we do have really good bus coverage through a lot of the central parts of the city. We have our express buses the 801, the 803, plus two new express routes that have just recently opened. Rapid routes Rapid routes excuse me, rapid routes that have just recently opened. They've done a lot of work in trying to separate bus lanes in the center part of the city. We do have our one commuter rail red line that runs from leander to downtown, and more uh, light rail on the way.

Speaker 1:

hopefully, knock on something yeah, the other like positive new thing in austin that we got to check out when we were doing our austin in a day episode was the brand new all-electric. Um. They've still been adding more bikes and stations to that system, which is going to be dramatically increasing in size, which is nice and it pairs nicely with um the bike infrastructure that the city has been putting in, uh, the amount of bike lanes, um, neighborhood bikeways, urban trails, all of this sort of stuff in Austin um is great and is trending upwards quite a bit. And with the bus system you were talking about the rapid routes during the main parts of the day you're getting every 10 minute frequency. Most of the time, I will say definitely had my experiences where we got stuck, although when we were using it we lucked out pretty good.

Speaker 1:

A lot of buses fall into just like a high frequency area which is every 15 minutes and then drops off from there. But on the negatives though, that commuter line, like you said, it's only about every half an hour frequencies and, for being real, the route is not what it should have been. That was kind of like the compromise route Running along an old freight line. There has been a really good push for transit-oriented development, but it's taken some time to come to fruition and, as a result, the ridership is trending in the right direction. But it's taken a long time to build any significant ridership because a lot of the stations were just not really places that people were living or wanted to go to. So, um, that's definitely a tricky thing there uh, also, austin's not.

Speaker 2:

Uh, it does sprawl somewhat but it's not as large of a city geographically as a city like san antonio. Um, so the airport's really not that far from everything in town and we surprisingly have really poor connectivity to the airports. There are two buses. I think there's one bus.

Speaker 1:

Yes, the 20. I try to take the 20 to the airport when I do it and you really have to just put yourself in the mindset that it's not going to be that great. Also, Austin's hot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's hot and shelters aren't always well shaded, so you were sitting in the sun or trying to find shade near a shelter, and it's hard it can be very hard to do, so we're going to jump right back into this episode in just a second, but first, if you have not liked this video, go ahead and do so. Also, leave a comment. We love reading all of them and respond to as many as we can, and be sure that you are subscribed so that you catch every episode as they come out.

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Speaker 1:

Just be sure to leave us a rating and give us a comment Number four on our list, which is the city of Houston, our other neighbor to the south, our other neighbor to the south, yes, and Houston. You know, I feel like this one is an episode that people probably like it's done really well compared to some of the other ones and it's because, like Houston and public transit couldn't be further apart in people's heads, I think, but in reality they're actually doing quite a bit and now like there are plenty of issues in Houston. But I remember starting the day on the Red Line light rail and just being absolutely shocked at how many trains there were so many trains.

Speaker 2:

Yes, every time we looked away another train.

Speaker 1:

It was literally every six-minute frequencies and when you've got them going in both directions, yeah it was insane. It was really moving pretty efficiently. They're running in the center lanes of a street essentially, but it is dedicated. They're not sharing lanes with traffic like the Kansas City streetcar does.

Speaker 2:

I know this probably doesn't happen every weekday, but some of the buses were aggressively on time. We were running to the stop to try to catch them because you didn't have long for the doors to catch the bus at the stop.

Speaker 1:

I'll say, though, we did that, and then we were like wow, we almost didn't need to do it. A lot of their buses were on every eight minute frequencies, which is like you know that, that's. You would not expect that to be happening in texas, yeah, um. So yeah, I mean we, we caught a lot of buses, all different types of buses, um, and yeah, they were, they effectively were getting you around the city. We even, I remember going out to one of the transit centers, kind of not on the edge of town but like out on the, the first kind of major highway ring and um, at the big transit center. We caught a bus pretty efficiently from there that then utilizes the horribly ugly highway infrastructure but uses it in the best way possible uses an express lane over the highway to get to get you into downtown.

Speaker 2:

It's expressed from the transit center up in the uptown area all the way to downtown. Yeah, um, also there is a little bit of BRT infrastructure but, going towards the negative side, the current mayor has done a lot to take away that BRT infrastructure and so now we've seen BRT lines either severely reduced, removed or canceled entirely.

Speaker 1:

Yes, which is obviously not great. Yeah, and then that kind of falls into more of the negative sides, and I mean the fact that you're having to rely on buses as well. You know, some parts of the town had bus lanes, but other parts don't. When you get stuck in rush hour traffic and the buses are all sitting in traffic like they do in any city, it becomes less effective for people to use.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but like any city, Houston's still very car-centric and definitely built for the individual passenger vehicle.

Speaker 1:

Yes, for sure. Definitely recommend folks check that episode out, though, if they're interested.

Speaker 2:

With that next on our list and this is going to create a little bit of contention for people in Texas. Next on our list is Dallas, and I think one of the big reasons for that is Dallas has one of the largest light rail networks in the country.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and it extends quite a ways. And I mean personally, like these two are kind of tied in my head, like we literally flipped them back and forth a few times and I was like, eh, we can go either way. So we have the contention.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yes, yes for sure. I am firm in my belief that Dallas is ahead of Houston.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and I mean the DART trains are great. They go, like you said, that it's a very extensive system. Um, with that, though, it all kind of funnels into this one street downtown where they're running on like a nice transit plaza, but they're at basically max capacity on the street, which makes it so that each of the branches of the light rail has 20 minute frequencies. 20 minute frequencies is not great, that is. I'm not going to just go show up at the train station without consulting a schedule to see what time it's coming, and in a city the size of Dallas, that shouldn't be the case. In my opinion.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't disagree with that entirely. The big positive for me is that the train network is so extensive and really I'm looking at it as the regional connectivity so Dallas-Fort Worth is a massive region and connectivity. So Dallas-Fort Worth is a massive region and there is a lot of really good connectivity. You can take the TRE all the way to DFW and to Fort Worth. You can take the Orange Line to Love Field with a bus connection or you can even come down from Denton. There's the rail line from Denton coming into Dallas so it almost functions a little bit more like one of the East Coast cities with like those sort of regional connections, like their metro is almost like a bit more like one of the East Coast cities with those sort of regional connections, like their metro is almost like a metro, like one of the commuter lines out from another city.

Speaker 1:

Yeah right, the stop spacing is pretty far away and all that sort of stuff. I think that makes sense.

Speaker 2:

So for regional connectivity it's really high on my list, yeah.

Speaker 1:

One of the negatives for Dallas for me was the buses were pretty not great to use. Not great. I feel like we kind of struggled with buses the whole time we were there. I remember the one instance in particular there were just several buses queued up at a stoplight and it took like three or four cycles of the light for the bus to just cross the one intersection that we were waiting for it at, which is just really frustrating, especially when it wasn't just one bus. It was a road that had multiple buses running down it and there was zero signal priority. There was no dedicated bus lane, like nothing to try to clear the buses through the intersection, and there were plenty of people waiting on the bus to ride it. Um, the frequencies on the buses in general were not good from multiple places.

Speaker 1:

So, uh, for a system of that size and to your point about it being like the stop spacing on the light rail is pretty far apart they got to do something to kind of compensate for dallas. It is there is way more there than folks would think similar to houston. It's just like you don't think of these cities as being areas that even have public transportation. Um, the systems are big and expensive. I feel like I was just saying a lot of the negative things about dallas, but overall it was a positive. I was just saying a lot of the negative things about Dallas, but overall it was a positive experience. There's also a lot of great work being done there. We've done several episodes with the folks from Data, the Dallas Area Transit Alliance, who successfully have prevented budget cuts coming from the state level to the system. So, as far as momentum is concerned, there's some good grassroots efforts going to try to improve the system and there's investments into the system.

Speaker 2:

So I mentioned airport connectivity earlier. The Silver Line, which is going to run from DFW to Plano, is a major investment in the region by DART. So definitely some improvements there.

Speaker 1:

Yes, moving on to number two on our list here. This was actually one of the first episodes that we did. This was the first kind of city using only public transit episode. Uh, going back to salt Lake city, and uh, it was a chilly day in salt Lake city, I remember um, but overall we were pretty impressed. Um, they have a pretty extensive light rail system that kind of runs throughout the city. Um, there are efforts to expand this system with some new lines. They also had pretty decent bus network coverage. It was running on schedule. It's not the most frequent buses this is kind of a recurring theme. Not everywhere has the most frequent buses. But it integrated well into the system. We were able to use it effectively while we were there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, a big win for me was that the airport connectivity was smooth. I mean, you walked right out of the terminal and the light rail stopped right by the door.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, it was super easy no long walking around a weird area, no shuttle to get there. They had a really nice attendant who talked to you while you waited. That's right, I forgot about that. Yep, it was cold, though it was really cold. It was a freezing night. Sitting there waiting for it, I remember.

Speaker 2:

Another positive for the area you have the front runner which sort of runs through that center spine of that part of Utah from, I think, Ogden to Provo, yes, and so you have a lot of regional connectivity in these little cities that are all sort of in that line.

Speaker 1:

Yep, and then we didn't get to use them on the trip that we did there. But there are some BRT systems kind of further out and Salt Lake City has also been investing in further BRT in the area. And then, as far as momentum is concerned, the Rio Grande plan. We've talked about this in an episode previously. There are some, you know, big grassroots efforts to propose some utilization of a historic central station that is there, which would be a massive win for the city, because right now this kind of falls on the negatives. They're like kind of Salt Lake City's central station. It's like offset from downtown by like a weird amount of blocks and it's just kind of in an area that felt pretty industrial and not very central.

Speaker 2:

Another negative for Salt lake. Uh, negative or positive? Yeah, it's a negative with an opportunity. Uh, the streets are the widest streets I've ever seen.

Speaker 1:

They are huge, wildly wide, like it's.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's actually insane and absurdly wide, like it feels like a texas highway in the middle of your city.

Speaker 1:

Yes, just on the just on the street and, it may like, hurts you in terms of walkability because everything is just it, like you know, adds up marginally everything is that much further?

Speaker 1:

away. You're also spending a lot more time like crossing the street, which is just dangerous from the perspective of needing to interface with cars and whatnot on foot. But the potential positive out of this is, if the city wanted to um, they could have amazing protected bike lanes. They could have amazing protected bike lanes, they could have amazing dedicated bus lanes and they have the real estate to be able to do it in a nice way.

Speaker 1:

Um, while we're there, we noticed some bike lanes, but I don't remember anything really standing out to me as like wow, this is amazing bike infrastructure, yeah, um most of it seemed to be around the universities.

Speaker 2:

It was like where it got better, but then it sort of tapered off yeah, it would be like kind of painted bike lanes and stuff through downtown. But, all in all, we had a really good time in Salt Lake city. Uh, really enjoyed it and, again, I was very impressed by what exists there for a city that I knew nothing about when we arrived.

Speaker 1:

One major thing that they could do to improve it, and I remember it bothered the lack of signal prioritization on the light rail. But all in all, for Salt Lake City, holy cow, I mean, it was actually really good and I like to see the momentum that they're pushing there.

Speaker 1:

Agreed yes, all right, so number one on the list. This one will be no surprise, because I feel like so many of these cities leading up to this point are not known for being transit cities. Right, this was the first one that we went to. That was like okay, this is going to be the first episode where we do this city in a day using only public transit. It's going to be pretty easy, and that city is Washington DC.

Speaker 2:

Yes, washington DC, nation's capital, honestly the most beautiful metro system in the country. There's something amazing about going down the escalator, and I mean down the escalator. It's a very deep system in some places, but when you get down and you just see the vaulted ceiling very like kind of brutalistic but beautiful, and everything about that experience just felt very nice. The system's really clean. It's pretty much uh, all the trains are on time. Yeah, it just ran really well. It was a great day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the frequencies are are high, you're not not needing to try to plan your schedule around when the train is going to come. We had good luck with buses the entire day too. The bus frequencies were high. Bad weather oh yeah, that's right, it was DC and they had just gotten a bunch of snow the day before we got there. Very cold, yeah, I mean, all in all it was a unsurprisingly a very smooth day. The airport connections, especially from dca excuse me, especially from dca. You walk right out of the airport, cross a little skybridge thing and the station is right there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but even connectivity to dullis is super easy. It just takes a while, yes, but the silver line now is open to dullis. You can just hop on the silver line and go straight into the city.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it's something like a 45 minute.

Speaker 1:

It's a long trip, but it's a one seat ride still. So that's. That's nice, um, from that perspective, um, the city itself is also just very walkable. Being an older city on the east coast, uh, you're not kind of crossing, dealing with highways and stuff everywhere. Talked about the metro too. Um, the at the time, the red line was automated and it had kind of newly been automated, but, as of today, they've automated all of the lines in the system, which is pretty amazing. I think it's the only metro in the US that has their entire metro system automated. So I'd like to see that which helps with speed, reliability, to be able to make sure that the system is staying on time and on track.

Speaker 2:

Yep. And when we talk about regional connectivity, uh, this is a. The dmp region is huge and there's so much connectivity because you have the dc metro, you have the mark trains, you have the vre, vra, vre, vre, vre I think one of those um and you have amtrak sort of servicing that area as well. So you have a lot of regional connectivity?

Speaker 1:

No, absolutely. And I mean to pick a few negatives here. One of them you mentioned the deep stations at the beginning. I mean it does take a long time to get down there If you're in a rush to catch your train.

Speaker 2:

You've got to budget five minutes of escalator time, yes, which is, I mean, it's notable.

Speaker 1:

I mean it's down there. That's like unlike what we have. Actually, I almost shouldn't say this. Well, I was going to say unlike what we've seen in some of the more recent episodes that you should be looking forward to from Philadelphia and Boston, but yeah, it was very, very far under Something else that I don't know that this is necessarily a negative, but it's different from a lot of the other ones the fare system, different from a lot of the other ones. The fare system. It's not like a flat fare like you pay in most places in the United States where it's like, yep, a ride with a transfer might cost you $2 or $2.50 or whatever it may be. In DC, you tap when you enter the station and you tap when you go out of the station, on the metro at least, and you are charged based on the distance that you traveled versus a flat fare. On buses's a flat fare, but um, for the metro that's a little bit of a different way to do it that's our list.

Speaker 2:

Um, like I said, we've been to these eight cities and so, uh, dc so far is our winner. Yeah, uh, sorry new orleans for being last, but uh, yeah, if you agree with this list, let us know. Tell us what we, what you think we missed. If you disagree with us, let us know.

Speaker 1:

Yes, tell us what you think we got wrong and, uh, like I kind of said at the start of this, we're going to be doing this now at the end of every of our kind of city in a day episodes. So, um, when we have our episodes, the next three of these they're not going to be back to back to back, it'll be kind of staggered out a little bit from boston, philly and baltimore. We will also be slotting those cities in the list and then stay tuned for more cities coming. As we mentioned a couple months ago, at this point or weeks ago, I'm getting ready for my move over to germany, so we might mix in some european cities into this list as well, which will be fun to compare.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

So much for watching, and enjoy the rest of your transit tangents tuesday yeah, I'm saving that dough public transit's where it's at watch me go.